Packers XLV

On Losing Collins and Looking Ahead to Bears Week

Posted September 20th, 2011 @ 02:09pm

Well, at least we got through one game unscathed this year. The season-ending injury to Nick Collins is a big blow to the defense. It won't cause Dom Capers to change his scheme, but it will force him to do things a bit differently.

In steps Charlie Peprah, who did a fine job filling in for Morgan Burnett last season. But Peprah will not make us forget about Collins. He's not as instinctive, can't cover as much ground and doesn't have Collins' speed. Expect Burnett to be asked to do more--my gut tells me he is up to the challenge. I love how physically he plays--I think he has star potential. There's also the chance Charles Woodson could play some safety down the road, if things aren't looking good.

The Packers face the potential of taking on the Bears minus three defensive starters (four, if you count Frank Zombo). Collins and Neal are out and Tramon Williams' status remains up in the air. Not the ideal situation heading into a key divisional game and rematch of the NFC title game a year ago. The Bears have injuries of their own: rookie right tackly Gabe Carimi dislocated his knee and will miss a month. Safeties Major Wright (head) and Chris Harris (hamstring) are nursing injuries and their status is unclear.

After a rousing and eye-opening win over Atlanta in Week 1, the Bears melted down in New Orleans. They fell behind in the second half, Mike Martz abandoned the run and almost got his QB killed. Jay Cutler was hit 16 times, knocked down 12 and was sacked six times, five in the fourth quarter after Carimi went down. Martz is getting torched in the media for only running the ball 12 times so he will over-compensate this week. Good lucj against the Pack's stingy run defense. The Bears' tight ends didn't catch a ball last week. With Greg Olsen gone, they're going with blocking tight ends, which their shaky offensive line needs. But it eliminates a weapon on a team very short of receiving weapons. Right now, to game plan against the Bears you concentrate on taking Matt Forte out of the equation and let someone else beat you.

Cutler was blitzed on 34 of 51 plays and he can expect to see more of the same this week against the Packers. Line coach Mike Tice is doing more shifting. He'll move guard Frank Omiyale to right tackle and center Chris Spencer to right guard. Roberto Garza is the new center. You can but Cutler will not get a lot of sleep this week.

I'll have much more on this big game later in the week.

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I think he does this with the intention of gttieng guys some positional in-game experience, just in case another guy goes down to injury. That way, there is little drop off in performance (theoretically speaking).

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on August 30th, 2012 at 05:39pm

all year on this site ..there are only two stats that are most important in a ftaoboll game ..turnovers and third down efficiency .we sucked at both. I knew we needed the 40 for 40 mantra as our defense has been horrible most of the year. TT needs to go into the off season with the mindset that we need to go into the free agent market and find some solid defenders that can make an impact. He cannot always rely on the draft. I agree with you Davy .Peprah will be gone next year and I think to use the franchise tag on Finley is a waste. We need linemen who can rush the passer and more athletic quicker LB's to team with Mathews. Was a great year .I don't think I can watch any of the championship games ..maybe I'll polish my shoes or clean my toothbrush when those games are on ..just too hard to take. Will be qa lot of analyzing coming our way !! GO PACK GO !!!

on August 3rd, 2012 at 01:41am

this defense reeild too much on creating the big turnover at the right moment all season, and that won't get you too far in the playoffs, as we saw. Too bad the Pack decided to play their worst game of the season today, too many drops, too many turnovers, too many big plays given up, and too little pass rush without blitzing proved to be their demise. this team has a lot of holes, and TT will have to address them in the off-season. As for all the Viking fans commenting here, it just proves what we know about most of you, you are a bunch of clowns, with a terrible team, terrible uniforms, terrible stadium etc. etc. Glad the Packers could provide some joy for your otherwise pitiful effort your team put forth this season. Enjoy rooting for the L.A. Vikings at least we know the Packers will be playing in Green Bay forever.

on August 3rd, 2012 at 03:18am

It was clear this was the game the Packers defense would be their ulamtite demise. That GB defense had more holes in it all year then my fishing net and you can only get away with that type of defense so long and once January rolled around you have to play defense. I hear you Sinikin this morning saying you expected GB's defense to step up today which confused me because they haven't played defense all year sitting at 32nd in yds. Eli is a veteran QB who exposed this holes and that 15-1 season. Giants had them on the ropes a few weeks ago and matched up too well against this overrated GB team. Defense wins championships, offense sells tickets.

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on July 2nd, 2012 at 10:29am

What happened to acaointcbulity Mike? Peprah worked hard to be ready for this season even though he was slated to be a backup and has played beyond expectations. Bigby has underperformed, held out, and then lied about his health.Why should any of the other guys work hard too earn their snaps if MM is just going to give them away to lying lazy shitbags like Bigby.

on July 31st, 2012 at 09:48pm

Bigby provides vlaertisity to the defense. He is a decent pass rusher and could be used on a safety blitz. We also could play a nickel defense where Tramon, Woodson, Shields and Collins cover down, and Peprah and Bigby play over the top.

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on June 29th, 2012 at 11:26am

i was scared of k.c and could get beat, and on dec, said nyg is team i hated to see. said we could get down by 10 and we did, clelad last years 21-14 win in nfc championship to the nuts, said we would be up early on pittsburg and pitt would score late to get it closer.said we would win super bowl 31-27. we won 31-26. not bad ha, it's not just the hurry up idiot.if your going to comment, read back before u spout off. chris from mpls. wow, if that does not show your queens season in full. u have more stats on the pack then u know about your own team, it's fun to follow a champion isn't it. oh, i know u don't know. glad to see davey, u got rid of the filth that was on here last nite. more queen rubes showing there iq. no one must go to there web site. one thing lost in all this, which i also brought up,( unknown guy), dealing with the death of joe philbins son, may have caused some things team they didn't even realize how it would effect them. for a lot of these guys it was there 1st funeral. u never been thru that. dilfer said when he lost his son, his team mates didn't know what to do or react, it was hard on everyone to talk and express there emotions. the team looked emotionless to me. and like i said before, u can't play this game w/o emotion and passion. everyone have a good and healthy year.

on May 18th, 2012 at 02:49pm

Where do I even start! Living in MN for the last 20 years I have to say I find it comical when I read posts on here stnitag how packer fans have never rubbed it in or went on vikings posts after a crushing loss vikes loss. Every time the vikes have had a better season the packers always go to the good old how many super bowls have you won? line. (speaking of being original) The packer fan base is one of the most cocky and arrogant group out there. But you know what they have a right to be. They have had many seasons to cheer for and a great team and franchise to look forward to. But lets not be coy and act like they do not rub it in to vikes fans just like vikes fans are doing today! That is sports, you give and you take it. After reading these posts it sounds like the packer fans love to dish it out but then cannot take it like a man when things go bad. Step up and take the jokes and comments because we all know you have dished it out in the past. You will have many great seasons to come with the squad you have so just deal with it. Otherwise stop caring because that is how sports rivalries work.

on May 18th, 2012 at 03:32pm

, but i still thought we would come back and win. i wish we would have done no huldde right away, then 12 gets in sync faster. hate being right this time, my wife even told me i'm in the wrong business, i should be working for the packers or the nfl. told p.a .when he told me we would win, i said that's scary, now i know we'll lose. the offensive line did fine. no one could get open, listen to rodgers post game. they did what i said capers should do, play man to man and no excuses. and what did i say this morning, can't have turnovers, and we did. we even got lucky with 85, he fumbled. i wish they would have played saine more, he has great hands and with all the drops we had, they could have been big plays. he looked great the last few games and tt needs to read my comments from now on. i said last draft, give up 3-4 picks and move into top 10 and get olb, or get watt from wi. wouldn't he look good now? was a great regular season, now we can do like the queen rubes have been doing since mid oct. and think of the draft. keep us up to date davey. go and, still, world champs

on May 18th, 2012 at 05:12pm

Disappointing game from everyone. Rodgers had some bad miss-throws (3) but was once again not hepeld at all by his receivers. Someone needed to tell Rodgers that on 4th down, you have to throw the ball. An interception is just as good as a punt. Taking a sack was total idiocy. Finley just convinced TT to NOT franchise him. Too often early drops are killing us. Will be interested to hear if the miscue with Rodgers in the 4th was Finley not continuing the route rather than errant throw by Rodgers. Best player on offense was DD. Did anyone notice the play before the Jacobs TD (blown tackle by Woodson btw) that it was CMIII that chased Bradshaw down? CMIII played hard the entire game. TT has to get him some help. We have to solidify the ROLB spot this offseason. It is the foundation of a successful 3-4. Better push from the down linemen would be nice but not necessary if LB's can rush. Can someone please tell me what happened to Tramon Williams? He was bad all year, looked bad today as well. He needs to refocus this offseason. Peprah, Bush and Lee will all be cut. As will Walden. On offense, Grant played his last game as a Packer, with a horrible fumble being his last contribution. I am afraid it may be DD's last game as well which bums me out. I hope he considers taking a paycut. I truly believed that if the Giants front four didn't dominate, the Pack would win going away. Our O-line actually played well while the game was still in question. I didn't take into account the offense blowing opportunity after opportunity. This will be a long offseason. GoPack!

on May 18th, 2012 at 11:17am

Ie2€™ve felt that it was necessary to take a day or so to rsepond to let the Vikings fools out there have their say and demonstrate the lack of testicular fortitude to engage in a meaningful discussion regarding Sundaye2€™s outcome, but in all likelihood are incapable of either doing so, or not having enough knowledge to understand the meaning of that phrase e2€“ most likely both. But I digresse2€a6I realize there are some individuals out there that feel Sundaye2€™s loss was complete humiliation, but I feel that the loss 4 years ago was far worse than this one, both in the manner of how they occurred, and the lasting impact on the organization. 4 years ago was the end of an era; Sunday will prove to be just a blip in the long term course of this team. Regardless of how the rest of the playoffs turn out, the Packers will once again be the odds on favorite in 2012. Sure, ite2€™s a hard pill to swallow going 15-1, then bowing out in the first playoff game, but champions done2€™t have 4 turnovers, miss wide open receivers, and bobble passes that land between the numbers. The best thing that came out of this was the accountability each man took e2€“ no one blamed any one else other than themselves. The defense, other than having a typical (for 2011) 1st quarter, and abysmal 2nd and 4th quarters, had a stellar 3rd quarter e2€“ they had two 3-and-outs and gave the offense every opportunity to get back in it, but the offense literally fumbled away their chances. But the good news out of all of this is that this team is built for the long haul. Indeed, Ted Thompson will have a busy off season e2€“ will Grant, Finley, Flynn, Driver and Clifton be returning? Some may, some may not. No one knows for sure; after all, these are business decisions, and all of the aforementioned parties fully understand that. Ie2€™m not even sure Thompson knows at this point. But I do know this e2€“ Thompson is thinking long term here, and his track record has proven that if you address the issues of the future, the present will address itself. The present does not take care of the future, and you done2€™t have to go any further than the Wilf family for proof of that. I think in a heartbeat, any one of us would be willing to embrace the off season issues the Packers have compared to those of the Vikings. Sunday was not a complete derailment, just a minor bump in the road. The Packers are, and will remain relevant for years to come. Maybe about the time Rodgers retires will be when the Vikings are, but then againe2€a6

on May 18th, 2012 at 12:14am

What's that ninerfan. What you mean, the team lost last night?! Well DUH. I think we all know that. Good luck to your niner team in the chihpionsmap game. Why you bother to post on this site is beyond me but whatever. You'd better pray they win it all, or believe me, you will be savaged ruthlessly. The Truth Hurtson January 16th, 2012 at 03:47pm . I originally came to this post because I enjoy Sinny on KFAN. He is very classy and just a true fan of his team just like all you guys. Should I have come on here right after a loss by the packers? No, probably not but I just wanted some good sports fan ribbing between teams fans. The ultimate compliment is paying attn to another teams sites. Would I love to have Rodgers rather than Alex, hell yes, but it is what it is. Thanks for the good luck comment, whether actual or not. If we do lose by all means come on SF blogs and savage us. I know I sound like a prick by posting on here but it was all in sports fun. You have a very young and great team/franchise with many wins and great seasons to come.

on May 20th, 2012 at 03:24am

this defense rleeid too much on creating the big turnover at the right moment all season, and that won't get you too far in the playoffs, as we saw. Too bad the Pack decided to play their worst game of the season today, too many drops, too many turnovers, too many big plays given up, and too little pass rush without blitzing proved to be their demise. this team has a lot of holes, and TT will have to address them in the off-season. As for all the Viking fans commenting here, it just proves what we know about most of you, you are a bunch of clowns, with a terrible team, terrible uniforms, terrible stadium etc. etc. Glad the Packers could provide some joy for your otherwise pitiful effort your team put forth this season. Enjoy rooting for the L.A. Vikings at least we know the Packers will be playing in Green Bay forever.

on May 20th, 2012 at 03:29am

this defense reiled too much on creating the big turnover at the right moment all season, and that won't get you too far in the playoffs, as we saw. Too bad the Pack decided to play their worst game of the season today, too many drops, too many turnovers, too many big plays given up, and too little pass rush without blitzing proved to be their demise. this team has a lot of holes, and TT will have to address them in the off-season. As for all the Viking fans commenting here, it just proves what we know about most of you, you are a bunch of clowns, with a terrible team, terrible uniforms, terrible stadium etc. etc. Glad the Packers could provide some joy for your otherwise pitiful effort your team put forth this season. Enjoy rooting for the L.A. Vikings at least we know the Packers will be playing in Green Bay forever.

on May 20th, 2012 at 03:29am

this defense rlieed too much on creating the big turnover at the right moment all season, and that won't get you too far in the playoffs, as we saw. Too bad the Pack decided to play their worst game of the season today, too many drops, too many turnovers, too many big plays given up, and too little pass rush without blitzing proved to be their demise. this team has a lot of holes, and TT will have to address them in the off-season. As for all the Viking fans commenting here, it just proves what we know about most of you, you are a bunch of clowns, with a terrible team, terrible uniforms, terrible stadium etc. etc. Glad the Packers could provide some joy for your otherwise pitiful effort your team put forth this season. Enjoy rooting for the L.A. Vikings at least we know the Packers will be playing in Green Bay forever.

on May 20th, 2012 at 05:48am

So the expectation here is that Knox and someone else will get a 30 plus yard catch and the Bears will have 3 or four explosive plays that we'll all look at criticize. That has happened just about every time we have played Lovie's Bears. The hope is that Peprah like Collins keeps these from being touchdowns. If you wanted a good test to see exactly where this defense is at, this is it. If Matthews and the gang let Cutler throw even 300 up on them, then you can have serious doubts about how deep the playoff run is going to be. The new mantra might be Defense wins championships, but offense gets you there. We're going to here a lot about the bend but don't break defense of the Packers the way things are going, but that's no excuse this week. If Cutler puts up numbers any where close to what happened weeks one or two then the brain trust are really going to have to come up with something. My expectation here is a 7 point win. This game is away and it's the Bears. On the plus side the field should still be in decent shape and the Bear O line is a mess. If you're guessing who is going to hit home this week, I'm going with Raji. I'm thinking 2.5 sacks. Dave, I think the first take is the best. Stop Forte, and let Cutler throw you the ball.

on September 20th, 2011 at 09:04pm

i still can't believe that collins is done. i saw the hit 10 times, he barely hit him, with his thigh,what next? could be sterling sharpe all over again. if i were dom, leave peprah where he is comfortable and was most of all last year and is a great tackler and move burnett to free saftey where he can run and make plays. that makes a lot more sense to me. the thing is lynn dicky fan, they will throw to forte more then they run him anyway, that is where he is dangerous. by the way, many many years ago, i was at a perkins and 2 different people came up to me and thought i was lynn dickey. i had the same hair. that was neat. i'm thinking the score is going to be 3 points either way i'll let u know friday. go world champs

on September 20th, 2011 at 09:53pm

Athletically speaking, Burnett can play well. Not so sure he can replace Collins' mental acuity, experience and savvy. Burnett is just a second year player, who missed most of his rookie season. He also can't always be expected to make the correct coverage calls/audibles on the field. My guess is Peprah will be in charge of that. This will be a big test for both he and Peprah. We'll see what happens.

on September 20th, 2011 at 10:49pm

We have to be concerned about losing Nick Collins for the season. At 28....he was in his prime...3 straight Pro Bowls...17 picks in the last 3 years. He played as a great last line of defense supporting our front seven's pass rushing. Dom Capers has said you need to build your defense around 3 key playmakers and our top three are probably...1- Clay Mathews...2- Charles Woodson...3- BJ Rajhi with Tramon Williams and Nick Collins probably 4 and 5. Capers bases his defenses for teams around these 5 guys. Quoting Pete Dougherty of the Green Bay Press-Gazette: " Peprah lacks Collins’ abilities to run and play the ball, and he’ll be alongside Burnett, a second-year pro who has played in only six NFL games, instead of Collins, who could change games with interceptions (17 in the previous three seasons combined) and provide a blitz security blanket for Capers as the last line of defense." If we can pressure Cutler into sacks and mistakes we will be fine. The offensive Bears that usually hurt us the most are Forte, using their tight end even though Olsen is gone, and Hester in big kick returns. If our defensive scheme stops this trifecta we should prevail. GO PACK GO !!

on September 21st, 2011 at 01:05pm

Folks, let's not forget this is only the 3rd game of the season, and that we lost extremely valuable players last year, and that we won the superbowl with a ton of replacement players. Will this be a test, sure, all games are but after hearing "In TT we trust," I hear fans backpedaling. Our season came together last year because the coaching staff has a system where players are plugged in and if they follow their assignments it works, usually. Plus TT finds talent like no other GM. This is a system that works and even though we've again lost in some areas we've gained in others like the running game that we now which we didn't have last year. Just like last year this is an EVOLVING team.

on September 21st, 2011 at 09:21am

This will be a tough game, as Bear games usually are. With regard to our defense and our pass defense in particular, the jury will really be out until Mike Neal comes back. The productivity of someone other than CMIII to provide pass rush is what will make our secondary and thus our pass defense better. Getting Tramon back, will allow Dom to use #21 to harrass and confuse the line of scrimmage. -- On offense, we need to mix run and pass better to keep Bears D off balance. Take the swing passes like the Saints did. Take the shallow crossing routes and sit down routes to exploit the weak underneath coverage. Would love to see Alex Green this week. Grant has come up with some big games against the Bears but clearly Starks should see more playing time as he is a better receiver and harder runner. 27-20 Packers. GoPack!

on September 21st, 2011 at 10:38am

ps. anyone that thinks we should bring back Sharper is delusional.....you will be mocked and ridiculed if you bring that "Take" to the HeadCheese comment board. GoPack!

on September 21st, 2011 at 10:40am

nice try p.a. i know your cockadix, just worry about the 0-2 vikings. we will worry about the world champs no one could talk so unintelligent about the packers. it has to be a viking fan and rube. I still say burnett will [play free safety and peprah strong. he can still call all the plays. he is a smart football mind. burnett has great ball skills and speed that is why they drafted him, just watch fellas. go pack

on September 22nd, 2011 at 06:01pm

I heard a report that Darren Sharper would be a great fit in Green Bay. Think about it, he played his first 15 seasons in a Greenby Uniform, he played Safety in high school, AND he is dating McCarthy's daughter if I'm not mistaking. Sign him!

on September 22nd, 2011 at 06:06am

If Dennis Cockadix is really P. A. that is really bush ! Can anyone verify ???

on September 22nd, 2011 at 10:30pm

Dennis can't be "PA". Besides, PA loves the Packers, as is evidenced by his mancrush on Wayne Larravie. I love that about PA. GoPack!

on September 23rd, 2011 at 05:30am

Explain to me how the Packer punter could punt to the sidelines without telling his teammates. And how Chicago knew enough to have Hester make the fake fair catch signal. And even IF the punt was shanked they're always supposed to be prepared for possible reverse or lateral, so some Packers SHOULD have been on that side of the field ?

on September 26th, 2011 at 11:49am

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