Pack Shows No Fight (Except With Each Other)

Needless to say, I should have listened to Devil Siny.

I turned off the TV at halftime and mostly did not watch the second half. That was by design: my 10 year old Dylan had a basketball championship game to play in Chaska. But I probably would’ve been tempted to do the same thing even if I wasn’t going anywhere.

That was about as disappointing a first half of football I can remember watching in years. Let’s face it: we all know we’ve been spoiled for the better part of a quarter century. I mean, it had been more than five years since the Pack has lost back to back games with Rodgers in there. There’s no shame in losing back to back road games to unbeaten teams.

But there is shame in the way they got there. Let’s start with the defense, which showed more fight amongst themselves than they showed on the field. Say one thing about the late game altercation between Clinton-Dix, Peppers and Raji: at least it appears they care. It would be nice to see that same fire between the white lines.

For a third consecutive week, the defense has generated zero pass rush. Granted, Cam Newton is a difficult guy to sack, but the same can’t be said about the two previous opponents, Manning and Rivers. After a quick start to the season, the pass rush has evaporated. To make matters worse, the cover guys have also stopped covering. Seeing Newton complete two passes of over 50 yards in the first half is ridiculous, with the pedestrian receivers the Panthers trot out. The first one, on third and 16, gave us an early glimpse as to what we were in store for on this day.

Meanwhile the offense continues to struggle mightily. Before the fourth quarter comeback, we saw way too many three and outs. Way too many instances where Rodgers was on the run. And once again we saw a below average outing from #12; a surprising amount of inaccurate throws, poor decisions and holding onto the ball too long. Still, the offense showed glimmers late–let’s hope the combination of a desperation fourth quarter and next week’s opponent, the Lions, will bring that unit back to life.

With four straight division games looming (two against the Lions), the Packers have a chance to pick up the pieces. We’ve seen this defense look dominant and we’ve seen it look dormant. There’s a serious issue at inside linebacker, where Nate Palmer’s play has dropped off and Jake Ryan looks like he’s playing catch up when he’s out there. The pass rush needs to re-appear, the run defense needs to tighten up and the corners need to play better.

So, we’re at the halfway point of the season and the Packers have allowed the Vikings to enter the NFC North party. Their fans will have some fun at our expense this week as they find themselves in a tie for the division lead. The division will sort itself out over the next eight weeks. Despite what I’ve seen the last two weeks, I still believe the division will be wrapped up by the Pack before the week 17 finale at Lambeau, in large part because the Packers face one of the five easiest schedules in the league the rest of the way, while the Vikings face the toughest.

I’m putting my faith in a regime that has earned my trust with their overall play over the last ten years. Most teams go through peaks and valleys–we just haven’t gone this deep down into the valley lately. I’d like to believe the leaders on defense: Peppers, Matthews, Daniels, Raji and Burnett will have a come to Jesus meeting and get back on the same page. I’d like to believe Rodgers will rise up after two clunkers and put this offense back on his back.

Any thought of securing the top seed in the NFC is gone for now. They need to get back to basics. Do what they do best: win division games and concentrate on capturing the North like they always do. The Pack has shown they can withstand in-season adversity and peak at the right time.

But after watching their last three performances, they have a long way to go before they begin to resemble the Super Bowl contenders we thought they were.

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17 Responses to Pack Shows No Fight (Except With Each Other)


    My good friend The “Voice” they say the first step in grief is denial. Are you still in denial that this Packer group of defenders is not any better than the last few years and may be worse?
    Last week you told us to be P-A-T-I-E-N-T.
    I will now break that down letter by letter.
    P- For no “PASS” Rush. No explaination needed
    A- For no “Attack” mode. There is none
    T- For “Tight End” I know RRodgers caught 2 TD
    but he has been a dissapointment. Wonder if
    TT wishes he would have given a 5 for Vernon
    I- For terrible”INTERIOR” line Offensive play.
    You watched…you know.
    E- For lack of “Effort”
    N- For “NO” No…we do not have the defensive
    personell to compete with teams that do.
    C- For “CAPERS” defense. A 3 game record for
    most yards allowed in Packer history
    E- Finally, for “EDDIE”. Is he hurt, is he out of
    shape, is he in the doghouse?
    Voice…you say only points allowed are important and obviously thats what matters in the end…..but Carolina with what was suppose to be a average offense could easily have had 2 more TD’s if not for Newtons overthrows.
    Finally…Voice in my grief mode I have left the denial stage and now im in the anger stage with this team. Maybe you can move out of denial on this defense and agree Rodgers has to carry this team and I believe he will. GO PACK GO !!!

  2. Eric H. Wood says:

    You’re insane, Davey.

    Rodgers can’t “rise up” and put an offense on his back. First, he’s not Eddie Lacy’s dietician; that boy needs to push himself away from the buffet table. Second, he can’t make your sorry Ol block any better. Third, he can’t make your second-rate WRs to get some separation. Fourth, he can’t rush the QB–nor can he help overrated Clay Mathews to play to his unearned reputation.

    Sorry, but them’s the facts.

  3. Voice says:

    You know OSSG, you’re right. The defense absolutely stinks. Capers should be fired. The rest of the defensive coaching staff should be fired. We should trade every pick in ’16 to the Texans for Watt. Blow the whole thing up. What we saw in the first few weeks as a complete mirage. All those wasted draft picks on defensive players are worth nothing. Boom. The Packers won’t win another game the rest of the season. But the Vikings can sure play defense. Here they come! Cane is right. SKOL VIKINGS!!!

  4. Cane says:

    So are people finally ready to admit: 1) the Lacy era is over, 2) peeps like Guion and Peppers over-achieved last year, 3) Thompson has failed in acquiring any defensive depth. 4) Vikings are now in the driver’s seat in the North.

  5. GB13MN0 says:

    Cane–”The Vikings are in the drivers seat in the NFC North”. Seriously? The only reason the queenies won the game yesterday is the boneheaded decision by St. Louis to go for two in the first half.

  6. Cane says:

    And the only reason GB beat the Rams is because Foles threw up a 23 rating against you turds.

  7. larry says:

    Like a Great Coach and man once said , WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT HERE???? I said in pre-game post. what happened to the run D?I know shields, Rollins and another cb was out, can’t even remember his name,hurt, But if we can’t stop the run we are done. It is funny how this game , can make a man have so much passion, for something we can’t control. I know OSSG and Voice will sit down and have a beer when they meet, but it brings out our Passion for the team we love and take pride in. I wished Hyde would have played man to man on Olson, and the rest played zone behind him and 52 keep an eye on Newton, that way everything is in front of you. But every time I rip capers it seems I get jumped, so you all know he knows more than I do. I said at the beginning of the year, the Pack will be 12-4, vikes 10-6, so I will still stick with that. The vikes d is by far better, but there offense is pathetic, they beat the bears, cause Gould who had made 19 FG’s in a row misses a 35 yarder, and rams for dumb reason goes for 2, sometimes it’s better to be lucky and a little bit bit good. I think it makes it fun with my viking friends over here, and let’s have fun and ENJOY the season. Grandpa says Go Packers.


    Voice….A New Glarus for both of us….Keep your passion coming but just use your good old specs for our old eyes and not the rose colored ones. Us old Packer fans get it….Keep the Passion GO PACK GO !!

  9. Scott says:

    I don’t think the defense was ever a great defense. It was a defense that relied on the offense getting out to big leads.

    Now the offense is struggling and putting a lot of pressure on the defense. How many 3 and outs did the offense have on Sunday?

    Yes the defense didn’t play well, but they had injuries and also got little rest with the poor performance by the offense. The offense should be better. Rodgers needs to step it up and take some chances. And do not start Lacy until he’s proven he can do something.

  10. GB13MN0 says:

    Cane–A viqueens fan calling the Packers turds is like some loser who drives a beat up 1996 Dodge Neon ripping on the guy next to him at the stoplight for driving a 2016 Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG.

  11. Bob Jackson says:

    As I watched the exchange of words between the Packer players, I found it rather odd that Clay, who was in very close proximity to the players, did not get involved at all. Was hoping to see more leadership there.

  12. Packerlifer says:

    While there’s plenty to be critical about the Packers’ recent performances the season is only at the halfway point and they’re still in pretty good position.

    A year ago they were 5-3 and a game behind the Lions in the standings. They were just coming off a 44-23 beatdown in New Orleans and had also been beaten by 20 in Seattle and held to 7 points in Detroit. They wound up 12-4 and nearly went to the Super Bowl.

    Hopefully at the end of this season we’ll look back on the second half comeback at Carolina as the beginning of the team’s “awakening” for the stretch drive.

  13. larry says:

    was listening back to Jason Wilde on green and gold today, on ESPN Wisconsin.and Antonio Freeman was on, Funny, he said he wished MM would have went 1 on 1 with Hyde on Olson and zoned the rest of backfield. maybe I know more them some think. ONTO the lions,

  14. Voice says:

    I might be starting to sound like a broken record, but you can scheme and maneuver personnel all you want, but whatever you do, MAKE IT WORK! Beat the guy in front of you! This isn’t a chess match, it’s a FOOTBALL GAME!!! The ultimate in human confrontation! PLAYERS! NOT PLAYS!

  15. larry says:

    Voice, your right this isn’t a chess game, you need passion and skill to win in the NFL, if you don’t think you need schemes and mixing it up,your wrong. they lineup a lot of times they go man on man .the opp. has seen before on tape then the opp. has a advantage on you before the snap.your wrong. the NFL is so even with computers and drafting, you better be better at out scheming them, you can’t always win man on man, that is coaching. watch Belicheck , he always gets guys open , by coaching and video planning.and putting guys in motion, when is the last time you saw a slant or reverse, or Cobb throwing an option half back pass? you have to be creative in this league, they have tape on every play you run. It’s nice to beat your man every time,but it’s not going to happen. the more you put on tape the more they have to plan. just play smart, play with passion and coaching and you will win a lot more then you lose.why do you think Peyton manning and Brady and Rodgers play so well, they read and know what the defense is doing before the snap.Packers 31-20

  16. Voice says:

    Larry, trick plays and deceit plays will get you so far in this league. Run them once in a while, but don’t make a habit of it. Other teams are catching on to Rodgers’ hard count – I wouldn’t expect to see much more of that going forward. I agree that schemes are important, but let’s not get too carried away. It’s OK to scheme players, but it’s not OK to scheme schemes. Regardless, the nuts and bolts are still beating the guy in front of you one on one. Talent, skill and strength will beat him; a scheme won’t. Plays are nothing more than X’s and O’s on a sheet of paper. The player makes the play happen – the play doesn’t make the player happen. Never did. Never will.

  17. larry says:

    well I guess we will agree to disagree Voice, slant or end around or reverse is not a scheme it’s a football play, Brett lived on the slant play, and they seem to have gotten away from that, there so vanilla, this league is to close on talent to just win with beating your man each time you will not do it.. would love to here THC and others on this topic. Go Packers

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