Packers XLV

When Does A Loss Feel Like A Win?

Posted December 20th, 2010 @ 04:12am

No, the loss in New England didn't really feel like a win. But it felt a whole lot better than last week's loss.

The Pack played well enough to beat New England and snap Tom Brady's 26-game home winning streak; but the failure to capitalize on three potential interceptions was the difference. So was the ridiculous kickoff return near the end of the first half by an offensive lineman that sapped the Pack of the momentum of a ten point lead.

It began on the game's first play, when Mike McCarthy tried an onside kick that gave the Pack possession and got them on the scoreboard first. More than anything, we learned that Matt Flynn was up for the moment. Yes, he made some mistakes. But considering the circumstances he was facing, he played beyond everyone's expectations, except maybe his dad Alvin's.

If Rodgers is not ready to return next week, and barring a setback he should be back behind center next Sunday, at least the Packers know that Flynn can lead this team if he's needed.

The positives: Brandon Jackson flirted with a 100 yard rushing game and John Kuhn converted a number of key third downs with extra effort and broken tackles. The offensive line played light years better than last week--blocking well in the run game, protecting Flynn and avoiding penalties.

The defense was outstanding. Late in the third quarter, they had given up just 129 yards to the Patriots. That's unheard of. Bishop and Raji made a number of big plays and the back end held up despite the loss of Nick Collins, who injured his ribs in the first half.

The final drive ended in an ugly fashion, as you might expect from a QB who's never been in that situation before. If the Pack picks off one of those passes, if they tackle the offensive lineman on the return, if they have one more timeout at the end, they may have registered one of the upsets of the season.

Instead, they leave Massachusetts at 8-6 and hoping for a wildcard berth. Wins by Philadelphia and Detroit made the path a lot clearer. The Pack controls its playoff destiny. If they win their final two games, they're in the playoffs as, at worst, the #6 seed. That's all we can ask for after a season filled with devastating injuries and close losses.

Take care of business at Lambeau and we likely get a playoff game in Chicago. Sounds like fun.

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on April 6th, 2012 at 02:08am

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on April 6th, 2012 at 08:14pm

I really feel for Flynn, gutsy play, did well, another winner. My heart is uplifted when you say in the 2nd to last paragraph that GB control their own destiny and they can make the playoffs if that is so. Next week NY Giants, then Chicago. Wow. I have a feeling that Chicago will be in the doldrums, even if they get by Minnesota tomorrow which I think there is a good chance since now we are dealing with the odd variable of the Vikings having to play there games in other stadiums rather than the MetroDome, Mall of America Field. The Packers outplayed Chicago in that first game, they beat themselves or something like that, they were the better team tonight too. Now the Lions won today, Detroit beat a team with an outside chance at the playoffs with a home crowd at Tampa Bay so really the Lions aren't that bad, check their net points, not even much different than a team like Tampa Bay.

on December 19th, 2010 at 11:33pm

by the way, is anyone else ready to start calling James Jones the "mercurial James Jones". He can look so good and then blunder by not finishing his route. The blitz is on, he's the hot read and knows it and stops his route? If he runs into the defender it would most likely be flagged for defensive pass interference because the ball was thrown to him........ he is my vote for "most frustrating Packer". Go Pack!

on December 20th, 2010 at 01:13pm

Aww it was a good game...we were hoping like hell to hear Zack on PA show tomorrow too! Regardless of the Final score, the Pack made us believe again tonite! Thanks for doing the show each week, you give us something to look forward to every sunday morning....Cheese goes great with coffee...and like Gerby says, then we turn the radio off when its done! Robb in St Paul

on December 20th, 2010 at 01:23am

Thank you for not calling it a moral victory. I really appreciate that.

on December 20th, 2010 at 02:24pm

"theheadcheese", feel free to leave comments along with us anytime, the "Comment" space is yours just as much as it is ours since we are all Packer Backers. That being said, I do enjoy your thoughtful blogs. It is exciting to know that if the Packers when their final 2 games they will be in the playoffs after a disappointing loss against a very good team. Go Pack!

on December 20th, 2010 at 03:06pm

It sure would have been a nice victory for the Packers, but still I woke up this morning feeling Packer fans can hold their heads high. The injury riddled Packers and their back up QB almost upset the Patriots on their home turf. (Altho' I I must confess that some of my feelings of optimism spring from the sheer joy I felt watching the Giants/Eagles game!) :D It is GREAT to know that Green Bay has a quite capable young back up quarterback that a number of teams would even love to have as their starter, and that's not even a stretch! Look around the league! -And you don't have to look very far IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. ;)

on December 20th, 2010 at 04:36pm

Close..... oh so close. Really thought they were going to pull that one off. Woodson will see that pick (maybe even pick 6) in his dreams for the rest of the week. --- People are down on special teams but as Collinsworth stated last night, ST's have the most inexperienced players as we have so many injuries. We have not had the same coverage team 2 weeks in a row. With that said, Peprah better be running laps today for that ridiculous "tackle?" attempt. His "go for the strip" cost us another 20 yards. Maybe you hold them to a field goal if they have it at the 30 yard line. --- Bulaga looking like a rookie at times. --- Anyway, as Davey stated, we control our destiny. All you need is a chance in the playoffs. O-line has to take more ownership in the run game. They did fairly well last night. Love Kuhn making the most of his opportunities. ----Mike McCarthy should be praised for the boldness of the onside kick and pummled for the idiocy of running same play with Kuhn 2 times in a row on goalline. He's tough to figure out. He needs to step up his game if they are to make the playoffs. Go Pack!

on December 20th, 2010 at 07:37am

Great effort by everyone again... I couldnt be prouder of the teams, heart and effort. If you could say a lost is like a win this was the time and place for it. However this is another close game we lost. That makes it 7 - 16 in games where it was determined by a score or less under MM. This is ever worst if you take Favre's seasons out of the mix. Also we have havent won any games this season when trailing going into the 4th quarter. This is not a mirage but a trend with MM. Im also upset with some of MM comments putting the blame on Flynn for the wasted seconds at the end. I feel this was totally on MM. He need to have 2 or 3 plays called at that time an when you look at Flynn he is looking and listening to MM for the next play as time is running down... Time to look forward to th eGiants and thank God we arent Giants fan after yeterdays game.. Now that was ugly... All we need is two more wins and we are in.....

on December 20th, 2010 at 08:42am

Davy: You are getting a little ahead....if we win the next 2 games we are not automatically in the playoffs....even if the Bears beat the Vikes they still need to lose to the Jets. So we need help. Are we ever going to win a close game ?? Six lost games by a total of 20 points. The PATs play the Bellechik game of waiting for the opponent to make mistakes and then capitalizing. We had opportunities with the 3 interceptions missed. Again our kicking game with MM showing no confidence in our coverage and going with short kicks and letting a 280 lb lineman ramble 71 yards is ridulous. Peprah trying to go for the strip was comical. Flynn played well .But again I say TT has to look at our #1 concern in the off season and that is to bring in an experienced offensive coordinator who can see the big picture and think ahead in games. MM is not an OC.....he had terrible use of timeouts......why with 4:30 a timeout and 2 others with ample time left....I realize Flynn is inexperienced but you have to plan better. Even though he had the 1 yard pass to Jennings for the TD have you ever seen a team first and goal at the 1 in the shotgun !! TT should be able to land a quality OC with the talent we have coming back next year. We need help.....hard to say but go Vikes and definitely Go Jets !! GO PACK GO !!

on December 20th, 2010 at 09:05am

Not true, OSSG: the Bears have nothing to do with the Pack's playoff chances. Yes, if the Vikings spring the upset we'll still be in the mix for the North with the bears. But, if the Pack wins its last two home games it will be no worse than the #6 seed in the playoffs, by virtue of tie-breaker edges over the Giants and Bucs.

on December 20th, 2010 at 09:36am

My apologies to you Davy and kudos to you ! I was thinking our only way of getting in the dance was to win the division.....but we can get the wild card with 2 wins !! Sorry for the bad rant ! GO PACK GO !!!!!

on December 20th, 2010 at 09:55am

a comment post by "the head cheese"..... you really do care. I was wondering if you ever read any of these. Thanks Daveey.

on December 20th, 2010 at 10:00am

Great hope for the future caused by a great effort last night. How many times can players keep stepping up for the injured? This is amazing and a big thanks to TT and the coaches for getting them preparred. If you get to the playoffs, it doesn't matter how many games you won or lost by 3-4 points or 30. Once you're in you're in. And Davy, go tell PA to go pound sand. What a loser with elephantitis. Ha, ha, ha! Now, let's keep it together for the next 6 games. GO PACK GO !!

on December 20th, 2010 at 11:28am

Just a quick note, all of these teams need to win but the Giants are going to be as mad as we all know what for losing the way they did, legendary' choke' per NY Post loss, their game has been a major sports story in the media, so was this Patriot/Packer game for that matter but different.

on December 20th, 2010 at 11:37am

Scheny, I read all these comments and appreciate everybody posting their thoughts here. I tend to leave my talking to the blog--figuring this is your space. But I'll chime in form time to time. Favre has just been upgraded from out to questionable. This could be epic tonight.

on December 20th, 2010 at 12:12pm

Too bad for our team that this game against the Giants is an incredibly tricky spot dor our squad. if i hear one more person tell me their implosion last week killed their season i am going to go insane. it simply is untrue. Actually, the biggest 4th quarter implosions in nfl history lead to a big win the following week.

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